Thought this was a great argument by a poster on a forum and would further support the case (in the other post)presented here on this issue. Quite often muslims contend that the Jews stole Arab land. In fact history proves that land was first owned by the Jews, then it was taken over by many different conquering powers.
Britain took it from the Ottoman Empire and divided it among the jews and arabs. For those that would like further background ammunion on this particular issue, I've posted the argument below, which was in response to the muslim detractors (excuse the typos-it is from a forum).
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330-638 C.E. The Byzantine Empire ruled Syria Palaestina(Judea renamed by the Romans) and Samaria.They changed named to Palaestina.
390 CE, the Byzantines redrew the borders of the Land of Israel. The various Roman provinces (Syria Palaestina, Samaria, Galilaea, and Peraea) were reorganized into two diocese of Palaestina.
Under Byzantine rule, the region became a center of Christianity, while retaining significant Jewish and Samaritan communities.
634 CE, the Byzantine Empire lost control of the entire Mideast. The Arab Islamic Empire under Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem along with the lands of Mesopotamia, Syria, Palaestina, and Egypt
Islamic Period
Arab Caliphate Period 638–1099 CE
638–750 CE - the Christians of Jerusalem surrendered to the conquering armies of the Caliphate (Islamic Empire) under Caliph (Emperor) Umar, the second of the initial four Rashidun Caliphs.
The Arab conquerors colonized Palaestina, and over the centuries it acquired a Muslim, Arabic-speaking majority, through immigration, language shift and conversion
In Arabic, the area approximating the Byzantine Diocese of Palaestina I in the south (roughly Judea, Philistia, and southern Jordan) was called Filastin, and the Diocese of Palaestina II in the north (roughly Samaria, Galilee, Golan, and northern Jordan) Jordan.
661 C.E., with the assassination of Ali, the last of the Rashidun Caliphs, Muawiyah I became the uncontested Caliph and founded the Ummayad Dynasty.
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750-1099 C.E. - The Abbasids overthrew the Umayyads in 750.
In the 900s, the Fatimids, a self-proclaimed Shia caliphate, took control. In the next century, Seljuk Turks invaded large portions of West Asia, including Asia Minor and Palestine.
1099-1187 C.E. the Crusader's ruled the land of Palestine.
1187-1244 C.E. The Ayyubid Sultanate, founded by Saladin, controlled Jerusalem and some but not all of the region until 1250, when it was defeated by the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt.
1244-1517 C.E. The Mamluk Sultanate ultimately became a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, in the wake of campaigns waged by Selim I in the 16th century.
1517-1917 C.E. In 1516 the Ottoman Turks occupied Palestine. The country became part of the Ottoman Empire. Constantinople appointed local governors. Public works, including the city walls, were rebuilt in Jerusalem by Suleiman the Magnificent in 1537. Napoleon of France briefly waged war against the Ottoman Empire (allied then with Great Britain). His forces
conquered and occupied cities in Palestine, but they were finally defeated and driven out by 1801. In 1799 Napoleon announced a plan to re-establish a Jewish State in Palestine. Turkish rule lasted until World War I.
Jewish immigration to Palestine, particularly to the "four sacred cities" (Jerusalem, Safed, Tiberias and Hebron) which already had significant Jewish communities, increased particularly towards the end of Ottoman rule; Jews of European origin lived mostly off donations from off-country, while many Sephardic Jews found themselves a trade.
We all know about the British defeating the Ottoman empire in World War 1 and divided up the Empire with France. So who's land were you saying it was because I'm confused?
The arabs stole the land from the Byzantines (Greek Romans) who stole the land from the Romans who stole the land from the Persians who stole the land from the Babylonians who stole the land from the Jews who were the dominating culture in the land at the time.
A jew is a jew is a jew no matter where he comes from, being jewish is both being part of a race and religion. The Turks have just a right to the land as Arabs. The Chrisitians have much right to the land as the Turks. The Romans have just as much right to it as the Christians, the Persians have just as much right to it as the Romans, and the Jews have as much right to it as anybody else.
Capiche? RIGHT IS MIGHT!
History has proven time and time again that whoever has might is right and if their might is conquered they giver up their right.
Israel since day 1 in 1948 has been on the defense. They understand that in order to remain they must be strong and not allow anybody to conquer them. This is no secret. Anybody who attemtpts to conquer Israel will beign the end of civilization as we know it. All civilizations have come to an end. This one is bound to also.
"Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?" -Walid Shoebat, Former PLO Terrorist.
You mean just as Imperialistic as the Persian Empire who CONQUERED the land. And just as Imperialistic as the Islamic Empire who CONQUERED AND STOLE THE LAND.
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Islamic Period
Arab Caliphate Period 638–1099 CE
638–750 CE - the Christians of Jerusalem surrendered to the conquering armies of the Caliphate (Islamic Empire) under Caliph (Emperor) Umar, the second of the initial four Rashidun
Caliphs.
The Arab conquerors colonized Palaestina, and over the centuries it acquired a Muslim, Arabic-speaking majority, through immigration, language shift and conversion
In Arabic, the area approximating the Byzantine Diocese of Palaestina I in the south (roughly Judea, Philistia, and southern Jordan) was called Filastin, and the Diocese of Palaestina II in the north (roughly Samaria, Galilee, Golan, and northern Jordan) Jordan.
661 C.E., with the assassination of Ali, the last of the Rashidun Caliphs, Muawiyah I became the uncontested Caliph and founded the Ummayad Dynasty.
750-1099 C.E. - The Abbasids overthrew the Umayyads in 750.
In the 900s, the Fatimids, a self-proclaimed Shia caliphate, took control. In the next century, Seljuk Turks invaded large portions of West Asia, including Asia Minor and Palestine.
1099-1187 C.E. the Crusader's ruled the land of Palestine.
1187-1244 C.E. The Ayyubid Sultanate, founded by Saladin, controlled Jerusalem and some but not all of the region until 1250, when it was defeated by the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt.
1244-1517 C.E. The Mamluk Sultanate ultimately became a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, in the wake of campaigns waged by Selim I in the 16th century.
THEN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE WHO CONQUERED THE LAND
STFU already Britain conquered that land fair and square and could give it to whoever the fu(k they want. So quit crying and bitching, we all know the Arabs are preparing for another war and another attempt to conquer Israel, so quit your yapping, pick up a weapon and fight for the cause that only violence will solve.
The truth is the Palestinian's do not want peace, and they will not be happy with only Gaza and teh West Bank. They will be happy when they have driven the Jews out of the entire Middle East.
Their stubbornnes, hate and pride will be their downfall. There is point point in tracing shit down 1000 years just as there is no point hcasing shit down 50 years.
Fact remains is a people were kicked out of their homeland 2 or 3 times. Other people stole it from them and then let others live there. How is what Britain did any different? And don't spare me that 1000 years ago bullshit, there is no difference between time and war.
